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Info-Mac Digest             Mon,  6 Dec 93       Volume 11 : Issue 235

Today's Topics:

      Administrivia
      [!] New directory /info-mac/per/trn/
      [*] Audiodeck 1.0.3 -- Audio CD player
      [*] binary-pump.cpt.hqx
      [*] clocks.hqx
      [*] ColorSwitch 2.3
      [*] Concurrent Graphplot
      [*] F/A-18 FAQ for archive
      [*] Filemaker-ELTAB-Phonebookv1.0
      [*] Fish simulation
      [*] Jabberwocky
      [*] Logic puzzle
      [*] MacTriv
      [*] Maelstrom 1.3.x -> 1.4 Updater
      [*] Maelstrom 1.4
      [*] MIDI Pack'en 1.0.0
      [*] Moon in the Mac
      [*] Oracle 2.1
      [*] Rugenwalder pict
      [*] RunOSAScript XFCN for HyperCard 2.1
      [*] sci/rlab-095c.hqx replacement
      [*] SendIt 1.0.1
      [*] Shareware contributions
      [*] StuffIt Deluxe 3.0.7 updater (repost)
      [*] Text editor for large files (S)
      [*] Thermodemo (A science education program)
      [*] Xmas Lights 1.0
      840AV OK with apps (Q)
      [mort@midway.uchicago.edu: Re: OptiMem]
      adobe audition
      Attach printers to apps? (R)
      Authoring tool data base -- comic data base
      AV Macs and System Update
      Bibliography Maker, Metronome Application Wanted
      CD's Included with Apple CD300i?
      Clarisworks2/ImagewriterII printing problem
      Creating BitMaps of Outline Fonts (How?)
      DeskPaint & DeskDraw (Q)
      Disaster Recovery Software?
      Disney After Dark memory requirements
      Does PowerPC speed == DX2 speed?
      Fax Software w/OCR
      Filemaker and Paper source options
      Forgetting SuperPaint transformations (A)
      Future of THINK Pascal ?
      GV fax soft for E.Modem (Q)
      Icon Problems
      LineLink 144e
      Microsoft Word (2 msgs)
      mics
      NEED-HELP! with Toshiba 3401
      Panarama II and Super Floppy Drive
      Recommendations on Macs
      Secure Copy
      Security software for student mac lab
      Toolbook software
      Warning: Apple Software Dispatch (extension problem)
      X11R5 server(s) for the Macintosh
      X11R5 server(s) for the Macintosh (R)
      xterm emulators for the Mac

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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 19:27:02 PST
From: The Moderators <info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>
Subject: Administrivia

We have created separate addresses for submissions of binary files and
articles for the digest. This will help us keep things organized more
efficiently while making files more generally available.

For text articles short enough to appear in the digest, mail to:
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Thanks,
Bill

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 16:08:39 -0600
From: igorl@uiuc.edu (Igor Livshits)
Subject: [!] New directory /info-mac/per/trn/

Hello,

Please note that a new directory now exists to accommodate the weekly
issues of the Trincoll Journal. The directory is /info-mac/per/trn/, and
the current six issues of the journal have been moved into this new
directory.

_____
NCSA-UIUC,  e:igorl@uiuc.edu,  p:(217) 244-0424

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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 22:58:51 -0500 (EST)
From: David Lebel <lebel@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Subject: [*] Audiodeck 1.0.3 -- Audio CD player

	Audiodeck 1.0.3
	by David Lebel -- Ariane Soft
	<lebel@IRO.UMontreal.CA>

	Copyright (c) 1993 -- Ariane Soft, All rights reserved.


	Audiodeck is a new audio CD player for Apple CD-ROM player
family. It features nice LCD display, shuffle mode, auto-play, four
distinct types of time display, automatic disc and track name display
using CD-Remote CD database, and many other things. The interface is
intuitive and good looking.

	This software is distributed as CD-ware. Please refer to the
documentation for more details...

PS:     Version 1.0.3 replace any previous version recently sent to your
archives. Due to a memory bug, version 1.0.0 was somewhat unstable, and
version 1.0.X crashed on data CD.  Version 1.0.3 is now more robust if
Color Quick Draw isn't available. I'm sorry for the fuss I caused. And
thanks for your patience...

[Archived as /info-mac/snd/util/audiodeck-103.hqx; 58K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 12:38:03 -0800
From: Eric Shieh <eshieh@soda.berkeley.edu>
Subject: [*] binary-pump.cpt.hqx

Ever download a file, only to have it appear as a generic binary file?
If you transfer files with unix, IBM, or VAX systems frequently you've
probably experienced this once or twice.  Normally, the solution is to
figure out the correct file type, and then use Resedit or some other
utility and manually change the file type and creator.

Binary Pump is a program which looks at file tags or name extensions in order
to convert them to the correct mac file type and creator.  This program is
very
easy and very quick to use--simply drag and drop and it's so fast you might
wonder if it ran at all!  Binary Pump will also work for non-Drag and Drop
System 6.0.7 users.

Binary Pump is also very easy to customize and has several features which
allow the user to extract file tag information.

Eric
ehsieh@soda.berkeley.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/cmp/binary-pump.hqx; 18K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 15:13:49 GMT
From: u9119523@sys.uea.ac.uk (Graham "Coxy" Cox)
Subject: [*] clocks.hqx

Three cool clocks. Oh no, not more clocks!!! Nice digital, colour formats,
and one analogue.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/clocks.hqx; 92K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 13:17:53 PST
From: "Derek Chee" <DCHEE@uci.edu>
Subject: [*] ColorSwitch 2.3

Version 2.3.0 implements Ambrosia Software's new license code
registration system, which allows registered users to personalize
their copy of ColorSwitch and remove the shareware notices.

ColorSwitch is a Control Panel that allows you to effortlessly switch
between the available color modes of any attached monitors.  Instead
of the inconvenience of using the Monitors Control Panel every time
you want to switch between color modes, you can simply hold down the
ColorSwitch modifier keys and click anywhere on the monitor you want
to change.  A menu will pop up listing the available color modes for
the monitor you clicked on; just select the color mode you want and
ColorSwitch will acquiesce.

Under System 7 or later, things are even easier: ColorSwitch installs
a Monitor icon-menu next to the Balloon Help menu, from which you can
simply choose the color mode you desire for your main monitor.

ColorSwitch comes in very handy for many day-to-day tasks.  Certain
programs require that your monitor be set to a certain color mode in
order to run, and using the Monitors control panel every time you need
to switch color modes grows tiresome quickly.  Your Macintosh will
also operate more quickly if you normally operate in black and white
mode, switching to a more colorful setting only when you need to.
ColorSwitch makes switching color modes so quick and convenient, you
will find yourself using it constantly to improve your quality of life
at the computer.

Once installed, ColorSwitch uses up 5K of memory.

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/color-switch-230.hqx; 95K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 15:08:54 GMT
From: u9119523@sys.uea.ac.uk (Graham "Coxy" Cox)
Subject: [*] Concurrent Graphplot

Concurrent Graphplot is a simple function plotting package for students.
Fully threaded app, very easy to use, nice interface.

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/concurrent-graphplot.hqx; 222K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 15:18:37 -0600
From: a1rodrig@aristotle.helios.nd.edu (ashok rodrigues)
Subject: [*] F/A-18 FAQ for archive

Here is the FAQ for the mac game F/A-18 Hornet which you might want
to put in info-mac/game/com.  Thanks!

[Archived as /info-mac/game/com/fa-18-faq-13.txt; 30K]

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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 18:49:57 -0500
From: gt6367c@prism.gatech.edu (DEAL, DOUGLAS WAYNE)
Subject: [*] Filemaker-ELTAB-Phonebookv1.0

Filemaker addressbook application.  Demo, with free upgrade to full version
with postcard or e-mailing.  Need FilemakerPro v1.0 or higher.  Colorful
menus, and buttons.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/filemaker-pro-eltab-phonebook-10.hqx; 55K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 15:07:35 GMT
From: u9119523@sys.uea.ac.uk (Graham "Coxy" Cox)
Subject: [*] Fish simulation

Don't you hate it when you aim for a spotted fish and get a stripey one? It
can bring your whole day down. This software simulates the experience for
anyone who requires a bad day simulated in the comfort and privacy of their
own home.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/fish-simulation.hqx; 50K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 11:25:46 -0600
From: chavey@beloit.edu (Darrah Chavey)
Subject: [*] Jabberwocky

Enclosed is a Macintosh RTF file, suitable for posting on an office door
(it's on mine!) of Jabberwocky vs. Tablespoons. These two poems appear
side-by-side for ease in comparison. Jabberwocky was posted here twice.
Mark Lomas posted three typographical corrections, but his version was
missing punctuation and dropped one word ("And" from line 13). The version
here has been carefully compared with the book version, including correct
typographical em-dashes and apostrophes. (Line indentation has not been
preserved, since that made comparison a bit harder.) Tablespoons is the
version posted by Robert McNally, as "recognized" by the Apple Newton, save
that a "recognition" of "through" as "though" on line 17 has been corrected
(I suspect this was a typo on Robert's part; at least I hope so). Robert's
copyright is included.


--Darrah Chavey            Department of Math & Computer Science
  chavey@beloit.edu        Beloit College; 700 College St; Beloit, Wisc.

[Archived as /info-mac/info/nms/jabberwocky-tablespoons-rtf.txt; 5K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 15:33:35 GMT
From: u9119523@sys.uea.ac.uk (Graham "Coxy" Cox)
Subject: [*] Logic puzzle

A colour DA version of the logic puzzle game.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/logic-puzzle-da.hqx; 38K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 15:12:31 GMT
From: u9119523@sys.uea.ac.uk (Graham "Coxy" Cox)
Subject: [*] MacTriv

MacTriv is a full featured board game based on a certain popular quiz game.
Full colour. Fully customisable, and features built-in editor for compiling
your own sets of questions. All macs, most systems.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/mac-triv.hqx; 459K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 13:22:30 PST
From: "Derek Chee" <DCHEE@uci.edu>
Subject: [*] Maelstrom 1.3.x -> 1.4 Updater

This updater only works if you already have Maelstrom 1.3 or later; if
you have an earlier version of Maelstrom, you need to download the
complete Maelstrom 1.4.0 package.

This updater brings Maelstrom 1.3.x up to Maelstrom 1.4.0, the latest
version which contains a few minor bug fixes and adds a few features.

Maelstrom 1.4.0 adds an oft-requested personalization capability for
registered users, and now uses our new 4 channel sound system,
Ambrosia Sound Tool (AST).  This allows for high-speed sound playing
with four simultaneous sounds playing at any one time, adding to the
game's sonic appeal.

Updating is recommended, but not essential.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/maelstrom-14-updt.hqx; 88K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 13:21:24 PST
From: "Derek Chee" <DCHEE@uci.edu>
Subject: [*] Maelstrom 1.4

Maelstrom received four mice from MacWorld.  Maelstrom won the
Shareware Industry Award for Best Mac Program, 1993.  Maelstrom won
MacUser's 1993 Shareware/Entertainment Software Award.  Maelstrom won
MacUser UK's Best Entertainment Software Award for 1993.

Find out what it's all about: Maelstrom is a 256 color, fast-paced,
nerve-wracking arcade game that is sure to leave blisters on your
fingers.

Maelstrom 1.4.0 adds an oft-requested personalization capability for
registered users, and now uses our new 4 channel sound system,
Ambrosia Sound Tool (AST).  This allows for high-speed sound playing
with four simultaneous sounds playing at any one time, adding to the
game's sonic appeal.

Ambrosia Software, Inc. is also running a Maelstrom High Score
Contest; details are included with the game.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/maelstrom-14.hqx; 1057K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 09:43:41 JST
From: setsu@lab2.yamaha.co.jp (Takashi Suzuki)
Subject: [*] MIDI Pack'en 1.0.0

[MIDI Pack'en 1.0.0]

MIDI Pack'en is an application for the Macintosh which allows you to
keep system exclusive data in files. (So called MIDI Data Filer.)
When this application receives system exclusive data, a new window'll
tell you the datasize and manufacturer.
MIDI Pack'en can handle any kind of system exclusive data.
Apple Script recordable.

This application requires :
System7 + QuickTime + Apple MIDI Manager or
System7.1 + Apple MIDI Manager

Shareware

Takashi Suzuki

[Archived as /info-mac/snd/util/midi-packen-100.hqx; 48K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 18:23:13 -0600
From: Angus McIntyre <angus@aegypt.demon.co.uk>
Subject: [*] Moon in the Mac

"Moon in the Mac" is a mini-application which shows the phases of the moon
for given dates. You can set a date, using the text fields at the bottom of
the main 'Moon in the Mac' window, and the phase of the moon will be shown
both by name and as a picture at the top of the window.

Angus McIntyre     angus@aegypt.demon.co.uk     angus@arti.vub.ac.be

[Archived as /info-mac/app/moon-in-the-mac.hqx; 14K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 13:23:49 PST
From: "Derek Chee" <DCHEE@uci.edu>
Subject: [*] Oracle 2.1

Version 2.1.0 implements Ambrosia Software's new license code
registration system, which allows registered users to personalize
their copy of Oracle and remove the shareware notices.

Oracle is a Control Panel that you place into your System Folder.
Oracle will present you with a random thoughtful quotation each time
you start up your computer or once a day, whichever you specify.

Oracle also allows you to print out any quotations that you find of
particular interest, for later contemplation. This could perhaps be
your most practical program for your Macintosh, because it helps to
perfect the most important part of your computer system: you.

Oracle has a library of over 1,000 profound readings, which accounts
for its large size. Although it takes up a fair amount of disk space,
Oracle uses very little system memory (around 5K), and works on any
machine under System 6.0 or later (yes, it is System 7.0 friendly).

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/oracle-210.hqx; 251K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 11:24:53 PST
From: robk@stack.urc.tue.nl (Rob Kouwenberg)
Subject: [*] Rugenwalder pict

While playing around with a videospigot I accidently (?) sampled some
german commercial. Although I haven't got the faintest idea what the
product is, it did give me some strange puppets. IMHO these make a nice
desktop picture ..

Have a nice day !

Rob Kouwenberg

[Archived as /info-mac/grf/rugenwald-pict.hqx; 291K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 16:30:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Bill Johnston <johnston@me.udel.edu>
Subject: [*] RunOSAScript XFCN for HyperCard 2.1

Here is RunOSAScript XFCN v.0.72 for HyperCard 2.1, by Donald Olson.
It was originally included on an AppleScript beta CD;  it is being
posted and submitted to the net archives with the author's permission.

The XFCN accepts an AppleScript in text form as an argument,
and executes the script if it is valid.  It is probably easiest
to write, test, and debug AppleScripts using the Script Editor.

See the stack script and "Execute" button scripts for error checks
and calling syntax.  The AppleScript example uses Finder 7.1.3 for
simplicity, but you can use any valid AS commands or scripts that
invoke other AppleScriptable software.

Requires AppleScript and HyperCard 2.1.  AppleScript is included
with a tutorial book from BMUG called "The Tao of AppleScript",
ISBN 1-56830-075-1.  I've heard that there is another Applescript
book by Danny Goodman that also includes the AppleScript software;
that book may be of interest to people who like Goodman's HyperCard
books, and those who intend to use AS with HC.

-- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu)
-- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949

[Archived as /info-mac/card/run-osa-script-072.hqx; 21K]

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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 14:31:30 -0800
From: tsyang@dec-8.CE.Berkeley.EDU (Tzong-Shuoh Yang)
Subject: [*] sci/rlab-095c.hqx replacement

This is the latest Mac version of RLaB 0.95c.
This new version is for the replacement of sci/rlab-095c.hqx.
RLaB is a MATLAB-like linear algebra package.

Enjoy!

T.S.Yang  (tsyang@ce.berkeley.edu)

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/rlab-095c.hqx; 1118K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 09:45:13 JST
From: setsu@lab2.yamaha.co.jp (Takashi Suzuki)
Subject: [*] SendIt 1.0.1

[SendIt 1.0.1]

SendIt is Drag & Drop application for the Macintosh which allows
you to send patch data edited/recorded by "DX7 Librarian", "JUNO
Librarian" or "MIDI Pack'en".
Apple Script recordable.
This application requires :
System7 or later + Apple MIDI Manager

Freeware.

Takashi Suzuki

[Archived as /info-mac/snd/util/send-it-101.hqx; 20K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 15:10:25 GMT
From: u9119523@sys.uea.ac.uk (Graham "Coxy" Cox)
Subject: [*] Shareware contributions

A cute DA shoot-em-up based on the original Space Invaders. Full colour,
compatible all macs, most systems.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/space-invaders-da.hqx; 116K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 17:37:30 -0600
From: leonardr@netcom.com (Leonard Rosenthol)
Subject: [*] StuffIt Deluxe 3.0.7 updater (repost)

StuffIt Deluxe 3.0.X->3.0.7
Comprehensive Update Installer

This comprehensive update installer updates any previous 3.0.X version of
StuffIt Deluxe to version 3.0.7.  If you have a version of StuffIt Deluxe
earlier than 3.0, you can not use this updater, but should instead contact
our customer service department for an upgrade.  If you only have SpaceSaver,
you must download and apply the SpaceSaver updater instead.

We now use our InstallerMaker to install this update, which makes updating
much easier than with our past updaters.  This update installer works the
same as any standard installer, fully installing the updated versions of all
components of the StuffIt Deluxe package.

[Archived as /info-mac/cmp/stuffit-deluxe-307-updt.hqx; 1970K]

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 01:24:32 +0200 (EET)
From: Matti Haveri <mhaveri@phoenix.oulu.fi>
Subject: [*] Text editor for large files (S)

I asked what is the best application to view and edit large text-files
_without huge amounts of memory_ and with the option to automatically
wrap lines longer than the screen _without adding LF/CR_ (auto-wrap)?
Search and replace would be nice too.

[Archived as /info-mac/info/sft/large-text-file-editors.txt; 5K]

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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 20:01:28 CST
From: cross@tulip.physics.wisc.edu
Subject: [*] Thermodemo (A science education program)

This is version 2.0 of the Thermodynamics demo.  Maxwell's demon
guides you through the fundamental tenants of Thermodynamics.
Check out the velocity distribution simulation in the middle
of the last section.  This program is geared towards high school
and early college students.

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/thermodynamics-20-demo.hqx; 81K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 1:46:48 PST
From: robertl@netcom.com (Robert L Mathews)
Subject: [*] Xmas Lights 1.0

Xmas Lights is a Macintosh control panel that places flashing
Christmas tree lights under your menu bar, as if someone had
strung them from the top of your screen. The control panel allows
you to choose the flash pattern. Best of all, the bulbs never burn
out, and the cord doesn't get tangled.

It is *not* a screen saver; the lights are visible all the time
while using the computer. It looks best on a Macintosh with a
color screen.

It requires System 7.0 or later. Xmas Lights is absolutely free!

--
Robert L Mathews, Tiger Technologies
robertl@netcom.com

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/xmas-lights-10.hqx; 23K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 22:23:47 EST
From: Bob Crawford <bcrawf2@rvgs.vak12ed.edu>
Subject: 840AV OK with apps (Q)

Dear Netters,
I would like to hear of any problems in running major
applications in word processing, graphics or layout on the
Quadra 840AV.  If I get useful info, I'l;l be glad to post a
summary to the net.  Thanks.

Bob Crawford

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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 93 10:43:34 -0600
From: mort@midway.uchicago.edu
Subject: [mort@midway.uchicago.edu: Re: OptiMem]

I'm the guy who Sendiil mentioned. All in all I'd have to agree with
SSnedhils assessment of the program with one exception. That is namely
that it will help on even 4 meg machines. Optimem usually lowers the
static allocation by 50% and on more hten one occassion lowered it by as
much as 75% (For example I had Ecel running on 512 K instead of the
default 2048 K) With savings like this, it is suddenly possible to run
multiple applications whre before two caused problems. I've been running
this program for a good 6 weeks and had essentially no problems. If
anyone is interested, I can see about sending out a copy of the article.

-David "Mort Mortman                            mort@midway.uchicago.edu
Assisstant Editor Chicago Computing

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 19:21:01 -0500
From: ai261%freenet.carleton.ca@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU (Matthew Ahrens)
Subject: adobe audition

I have some questions about Adobe Audition it is a "combination of photoshop
+ and premiere with certian high-end output features disabled" what features
+ are disabled? I am mostly interested in the photoshop part.

do you think this is a good deal? i would think so, looking at photoshop's
+ street price (>$300) alone!

Would any one be interested in buying audition with me, the photoshop half for
+ me, the pemiere half for you?

--
My opinions are mine only and tentative, pending further data
Matthew Ahrens                      ai261@Freenet.carleton.ca

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 16:56:59 -0500
From: bewilson@Kodak.COM (Bruce E. Wilson (bewilson@kodak.com), Eastman
Chemical Company)
Subject: Attach printers to apps? (R)

The newer versions of quickkeys would probably do the trick.  Create a
quickkey to set the printer to the desired printer for the specific
application,
then create another key to sequence: set the printer, launch the desired app.

Alternatively, use quickkeys to remap the print... command to do a
set printer key for this application (using the application specific
keyset) and then invoke file/print command.

		Bruce Wilson (bewilson@kodak.com)

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 00:33:40 -0600
From: "Paul M. Sheldon" <psheldon@utdallas.edu>
Subject: Authoring tool data base -- comic data base

    John Brainard wanted a database perhaps to aid construction of comics.
The query is part of a more general problem that I think this forum might
help my incomplete information on, a problem of more general interest, yet
which can work back to help John's specialized interest.
    Many years ago I chose Acta for an authoring tool rather than something,
I believe from, Owl Technologies that was not only outliner but hypertext.
By going the cheaper road, I probably missed some good lessons on how to
use hypertext to compose my writing. I believe it was called Owl Technologies
'Guide'.
    I have also seen some-
thing for storyboarding and making comics for the mac. I just know that it
existed for the mac and can only give that hope, no further information.
Sorry.
I point out that storyboarding is of multimedia interest to those who don't
know.
     Hope this helps!

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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 21:35:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Amira <brian@scs.unr.edu>
Subject: AV Macs and System Update

Here's some questions that I hope some wise soul on the net can probably
answer. I have an 840AV and am wondering whether I should run System
Update 2.0.1 on it. I've noticed that my Memory CP is newer then SU's
(7.1.2 vs 7.1.1), my Express Modem Software is the same (1.1.2), but that
the Sound CP is older (8.0 vs 8.0.1)!

**If you do not have an audiovision monitor, 8.0.1 is only 8.0 + a useless
feature.

So:
1. Will the installer only replace the older stuff?

**The Installer will not even install anything on an 840av, It knows that
HSU 2.0.1 is built into the AVs ROM

2. Also, are other patches installed that aren't as obvious and do these
   patches apply to the new AV ROMs?

3. Finally, is the Sound Manager routines built into the AV? (I assume so
since there is no Sound Manager Extension requried).

**Yes, it is built in

Thanks

Jamie Dananberg
University of Michigan

E-mail: Jamie.Dananberg@um.cc.umich.edu  OR  Jdananberg@im.med.umich.edu
 --------------

**Brian

<|Brian M. Amira  | Internet E-Mail: Brian@scs.unr.edu |>

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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 93 15:52:52 +0000
From: Raghbir Singh <R.Sandhu@cs.ucl.ac.uk>
Subject: Bibliography Maker, Metronome Application Wanted

Hi,

I am looking for a couple of pieces of shareware/freeware which MUST
exist out there somewhere. I would like to build a bibliography for
assist with writing papers, etc. and I was wondering of there is any
kind of application which can do this in conjunction with Microsoft
Word.

Also, if anyone knows of a simple application which operates like a
metronome, I would be very grateful if they would let me know.

Raghbir.
rsandhu@cs.ucl.ac.uk

------------------------------

Date: 6 Dec 1993 13:37:10 +0530
From: "Glockzin Donald" <Glockzin_Donald@macmail1.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com>
Subject: CD's Included with Apple CD300i?

I want to know what the latest Apple policy is on included CD's with the
internal CD drive. I know about the Multimedia package with the external CD
drive, but I don't want that. I am mainly interested in the CD's (if any) with
the internal version of the Apple CD-300i and any Mac with a CD.

Many people have bought the external and received the 8 or 9 CD collection,
but
I haven't heard anyone getting CD's with their internal drive purchase.
Actually, I have heard many people complain that they didn't get any. I know
of
some Macs (ordered >2 months ago) that came with the same 8 or 9 CD
collection,
but a recent order (not mine) came with only the installer CD. Any answers?

THANKS -- DG
Donald Glockzin
Lead Engineer
Motorola - CIG
glockzin_donald@macmail1.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 15:32:32 -0500
From: Francois_Guerard@UQTR.UQuebec.CA
Subject: Clarisworks2/ImagewriterII printing problem

Hello,
We have a problem while printing with Clarisworks 2.0 on an
ImageWriter II.  It does'nt print on the right of the page for smaller
margins than 1,5 inch.  Example:  if we ask for a 1 inch margin,
everything is allright on the screen, but the printer uses a 1,5 inch
margin.  Same documents printed on Laser printers are o.k.
Documents from other applications with smaller margins are o.k. also.
We tried changing versions of the driver AppletalkImageWriter, but it
did not solve the problem.  Finally, we tried with an older version of
Clarisworks (1.0Fv3), and the margin was fine.
Does somebody have a solution for this?
Thanks!

Francois Guerard
Centre d'etudes quebecoises
Universite du Quebec a Trois-Rivieres
Francois_Guerard@uqtr.uquebec.ca

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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 93 10:25:49 EST
From: Charles.Patrick%NRC.CA@VM.NRC.CA
Subject: Creating BitMaps of Outline Fonts (How?)

Last Monday Thomas R. Blake (tblake@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu) asked about
the
 availability of a utility to accomplish the above. Sometime last August I
downloaded an application BitFont 1.0.1, which was created, or last modified,
on December 1, 1991. I recall that it used to be available at Sumex, but I
don't think it is now. I got it off UMICH (I think!). In any event I was given
the necessary information by some kind soul on the net, who might be obliging
enough to do the honours again.

Cheers.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 00:59:11 EST
From: dmhender@FLASH.LakeheadU.CA (D M Henderson - library)
Subject: DeskPaint & DeskDraw (Q)

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>I got an offer in the mail advertising the DeskPaint & DeskDraw package
>(Zedcor, Inc.) available for $29.95 + shipping.  My questions are,

> 1. Is this package worth the price?
> 2. How much disc space and RAM is required?
> 3. Can the draw program save files as EPSF?

  1. What else can you get at $30. It will suroprise you
  2. Depemnds on your drawing. Some tiffs may need 2 megs

  3. Last version did not do E$PSF.




AOo

>Thanks much for your help.

>--John.
>J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <jb2@math.ucdavis.edu>

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 12:37:57 -0500
From: Brian K. Kobleur <wk01803@worldlink.com>
Subject: Disaster Recovery Software?

Hi all....I'm looking for any software  ($$$$/SW/PD) that will help my
company create a disaster recovery plan.  Ideally, it would contain standard
phrases with places for us to insert our own info, perhaps through popup
menus.  Really, kind of a disaster recovery authoring tool.

Any suggestions?

TIA
Brian

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 15:08:18 GMT
From: L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk
Subject: Disney After Dark memory requirements

>In IM229 Matthew Johnson <mgj@doc.ic.ac.uk> asks,
>
>> I have had problems recently with the randomizer in After Dark not having
>> enough memory to run specific modules. I remember seeing a fix once posted
>> to the newsletter. Could someone remind me of it?

>On that note, how much memory do the Disney modules require?  Even on my LCII
>with 8 megs and no other apps running except the finder, I get "Out of
memory"
>messages whenever I run a Disney module.

If you're getting
 'Out of Memory' messages with a single Disney module, try decreasing
the number of characters in the module.

If you're getting
 'Out of Memory' with all Disney modules, it's because you're trying
to run the Disney modules under an older version of After Dark. Disney
requires
that you use the AD player that came on the disk with the Disney modules.

More stuff about modules that don't work correctly under Randomizer can
be found in the screensaver FAQ - look in info-mac/gui.

L.
FAQ author.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 14:06:24 EST
From: adorfman@cs.tufts.edu (2d Lt Avram Dorfman)
Subject: Does PowerPC speed == DX2 speed?

Please respond directly, will post summary.

Does anyone know if PPC clock speeds describe the speed of the data BUS as
well as the CPU, or did Motorola succumb the the Intel trick of casually
describing the chip in terms of its internal speed?

My only reason for being skeptical is that many of us know that a 25 MHz '040
would be described in the Intel worlds as a DX2 50, and a 33 MHz '040 as a
DX2 66. It seems suspicious to me that the PPC speeds mentioned happen to be
double the speeds that we see for '040s (66MHz & 80MHz), so I thought I'd
ask.

-Avram Dorfman (adorfman@cs.tufts.edu)

p.s. Please don't think I have compared the quality of the '040 to the '486.
     If I get mail back saying "You Jerk! The '040 is MUCH better..." I
     promise
     that I will be rude in my reply.

------------------------------

Date: 06 Dec 1993 10:45:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <LEMKE@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu>
Subject: Fax Software w/OCR

Does anyone have any information on the relative merits of the fax software
with OCR capability?  Particularly, what do you know about:

	Delrina FaxPRO
	FaxManager Plus from STF
	SatisFAXtion

TIA!

-Dwight

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 10:57:31 +0100
From: Karl.Pottie@uz.kuleuven.ac.be (Karl Pottie)
Subject: Filemaker and Paper source options

One of our departments is considering to buy a Laserwriter Pro with two
sheet feeders. They want to put labels in one sheetfeeder and regular paper
in another. They use Filemaker Pro 2.0.
Using Filemaker scripts, they'd like to automatically select a paper tray
according to what layout they print. Unfortunately Filemaker only has the
option to restore the page setup and can't restore the 'paper source'
options of the print-dialog.

Does anybody know about a way to automatically select a paper source when
executing a script from Filemaker Pro 2.0 ?

Karl

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 12:08:48 -0800
From: jamiel@sybase.com (Healthier, More Manageable Hair)
Subject: Forgetting SuperPaint transformations (A)

>It seems SuperPaint forever remembers (some) tranformations performed
>on an object, so one can 'remove transformations', effectively undo-ing
>them. While this might be handy sometimes, it also takes up a lot of K's,
>not to mention a noticable slowdown in opening, saving and displaying
>the document.
>
>His question: can one make SuperPaint 'forget' the transformations
>performed on an object (without undo-ing them, of course), so the thing
>takes the same amount of disk-space as before the transformation? If so,
how?

If nothing else, cut/paste the image into another program and then paste back
into superpaint. SuperPaint should think that it is a new graphic and not have
that other info.
hope this helps

jamie jamiel@sybase.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 18:03:59 +0200
From: dittmer@fokus.uke.uni-hamburg.de (Ulf Dittmer)
Subject: Future of THINK Pascal ?

Dear netters,

given that THINK C is now in its 6th incarnation,
I wonder what will be the fate of THINK Pascal ?
I like it a lot and would hate to have to abandon it
in favor of MPW. Has anyone official or unofficial
information or just educated guesses what will happen
to it ? Many thanks in advance.

Greetings,      Ulf
dittmer@uke.uni-hamburg.de

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 17:35:17 GMT
From: "J. Rossi" <jr10@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject: GV fax soft for E.Modem (Q)

I'd appreciate any feedback on the fax software for the Express Modem
>From Global Village. I know they seem to have an excellent reputation
for their modems, but I'm interested in users comments. Thanks.

Francois Rossi   jr10@le.ac.uk

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 14:40:25 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Icon Problems

In Regards to your letter <199312041503.AA16763@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> Adam C. Engst writes:
> AE> I have a similar problem, although it's not all my icons - just the
> AE> ones on the desktop and some in the Apple Menu. And, even stranger,
> AE> it's only document icons on the desktop - apps are fine. I've done
> AE> all of the same stuff, and the only thing remaining is a reformat
> AE> of the entire hard disk unless anyone can suggest any other routes.

Strange that AccessPC would have made such a problem...

My problem seems have gone away now - and the only thing that I've
done is in the process of troubleshooting another completely strange
problem, I created a new System Folder by dragging it over from another
partition and repopulating with with my files. It helped the other
problem and may have solved the icon problem as well.

cheers ... -Adam

Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- ace@tidbits.com -- info@tidbits.com
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- tisk@tidbits.com

------------------------------

Date: 06 Dec 1993 10:55:43 -0600
From: "Michael L. Ayler" <AYLER@GAMMA.IS.TCU.EDU>
Subject: LineLink 144e

In Info-Mac #232 Eric Durbrow asks:

>I am having two problems with the LineLink 144e ($99) modem.
>First, it works when I connect the cable into the phone port of
>my IIsi. But it does not work when I connect its cable into a
>simple A/B switch box. Second, when I use SmartCom to get
online >at 14.4 Smartcom complains that the modem does not
recognize the >AT command set. Switching to the reduced command
set does not >work. Any solutions? Thanks.
>
>Eric Durbrow

Eric,

I have the my LineLink 144e hooked to an A/B switch and use it
with both a Mac and a PC--no problem.  Cable-wise, I have a
combination (ie, mess) of cables and it works contrary to some
discussion that the supplied cable must be used. I am using the
supplied cable in there somewhere, though.

One interesting "feature" however, is that Red Ryder and White
Knight do not connect at any speed. Both packages time out
trying to logon our VAX. However, MacKnowledge and MacKermit
work just fine on the Mac side, as do Kermit and  ProComm on the
PC side (9600, our fastest).

This does not address the SmartCom question, but hope it offers
some insight.

Michael L. Ayler
Texas Christian University

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 9:59:10 -0500 (EST)
From: LAN Supervisor <COLMENARES@MURRAY.FORDHAM.EDU>
Subject: Microsoft Word

> I am going to buy Word 5.1 (isn't this the latest release?) for myself
> for Christmas.  It will cost $81.  Does anyone know if I should wait for
> a newer release to come out soon?  I'd hate to spend the $81 and find out
> a new release is coming out within a couple of months!

Hold on to your $$$. Microsoft Word 6 should be out in January 1994 as will
Excel 5.

And speaking of Microsoft, I'm a bit disgusted with them. I didn't mind paying

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 10:00:18 -0500 (EST)
From: LAN Supervisor <COLMENARES@MURRAY.FORDHAM.EDU>
Subject: Microsoft Word

> I am going to buy Word 5.1 (isn't this the latest release?) for myself
> for Christmas.  It will cost $81.  Does anyone know if I should wait for
> a newer release to come out soon?  I'd hate to spend the $81 and find out
> a new release is coming out within a couple of months!

Hold on to your $$$. Microsoft Word 6 should be out in January 1994 as will
Excel 5.

And speaking of Microsoft, I'm a bit disgusted with them. I didn't mind paying
 $50 for the XL 2.2 to 3.0 upgrade, but I did mind receiving notification in
what seemed a short time after that an upgrade to 4 would be $99. I do much
better if I take advantage of an educational discount and purchase a new
version---not an upgrade.

The announcements of MS Word 6 and XL 5 also seemed to came out shortly after
the current versions were released. I think MS has gone a bit overboard
upgrading its products. Maybe they should have "less featured" versions of
their products. I don't need or want a grammar checker. (IMHO, a paperback
copy
of Strunk & White is the best there is.) Nor do I want an overabundance of
tool
bars; lately, I see more tool bars on the screen than the actual document on
which I'm working. Yuk! Is there a $999 word processor that can make an
omelette in the future?

Josephine Colmenares
colmenares@murray.fordham.edu

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 17:05:30 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: mics

In Regards to your letter <199312041502.AA16747@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> What gives with the mic input on the Quadra 605? I just bought a new
> Q605 (which comes without a microphone) and when I attach the mic from
> my old LC, I get nothing, zip, nada, zilch. The docs say it uses the
> PlainTalk Microphone, does this mean it won't work with the old mic?

>From TidBITS#204...

cheers ... -Adam

**Borrowing Microphones** -- Mark Anbinder <mha@baka.ithaca.ny.us>
  writes: Purchasers of Apple's new low-end Macintosh systems will
  be surprised if they try to use a borrowed Apple microphone in
  the computers' microphone jacks. The Performa 475 and 476, LC
  475, and Quadra 605 computers require the new PlainTalk microphone
  in order to record sounds using the microphone port, but don't
  include it. Microphones bundled with previous Macintosh models
  won't work, because the PlainTalk microphone has a longer plug
  (.75" rather than .5") and the old plug doesn't properly seat
  inside the new jack. The PlainTalk microphone is available as a
  separate item, in addition to being bundled with several of
  Apple's newer high-end Macs. The item number is M9060Z/A, and
  the microphone should be available from any Apple reseller.

Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- ace@tidbits.com -- info@tidbits.com
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- tisk@tidbits.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1993 16:24:21 -0600 (CST)
From: AA14711@academia.swt.edu
Subject: NEED-HELP! with Toshiba 3401

Recently obtained toshiba 3401 cd-rom drive, but it came with
no drivers, then they said oh you have to buy the 60$ driver
oh ok..whatever was wondering if there were any shareware
or drivers here or anywhere on the net so i could get
my toshiba 3401 up and going....any help would be
appreciated




aa14711@swt.academia.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 06 Dec 93 12:16:09 CST
From: Serona Blair <DBA0006%UABDPO.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Panarama II and Super Floppy Drive

Does any one know anything about Panarama II (Database)? Is it a relational
database or what? How are dabase files created? How well does it perform?
How easy is it to change a database structure once it has been created and
contains data? Does the data have to be unloaded? Does it have its own
language
or can it use other programming languages, such as C? What type of technical
support exists from ProVUE Development?

Secondly, Does any one know anything about MASS Microsystems' Floptipak 21
supper floppy disk drives. Can they read 800k Mac disk?

Any comments or problems about the items above are welcomes.

Thanks
Serona Blair

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 13:00:50 PST
From: Steven_S._Kang.ESCP10@xerox.com
Subject: Recommendations on Macs

Folks,

I'm interested in purchasing a higher end Mac Quadra for the purpose of
desktop
publishing. This system will be photoshop, illustrator intensive. I'm a bit
confused about which Mac to get; my budget is $5000 for the Mac, 16" inch
monitor,etc. What is the difference bt. Centris, Quadra (900,850, AV,etc.). Do
they all have built-in videos that will give 24 bit color on selected
monitors?
Also, what is the best color scanner in the market?

-Steve
kang.escp10@xerox.com

------------------------------

Date: 6 Dec 93 17:20:00 CST
From: "Mike Sisson  " <SISSON_MD@brutus.vought.com>
Subject: Secure Copy

I have been asked by someone about a program called Secure Copy. They were
told about this product by someone else so I don't know who makes it or any
other details. Has anyone heard of it and if so, do you have an address, phone
number or e-mail address and how much it costs? I have called Mac's Place,
MacWarehouse, MacConnection and MacZone. They have never heard of it.

Thanks,
Mike Sisson
sisson_md@brutus.vought.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1993 19:36:16 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mark Dohm, UW-P Information Technology" <UCSMAD@uwplatt.edu>
Subject: Security software for student mac lab

Hey folks,

I will be upgrading our Mac LC lab to LCIII's & sys7 (yeah, I know - we're
just movin' right into the 90's, huh?) and I need some security software.

I want to be able to:
 - Update software across the net from one central location.
 - Set configs (control panels, etc.) from one location.
 - Keep the students from messing up the system folder, etc.
 - Disallow illegal copying of software.
 - Still maintain the sys7 interface.
 - And a few other things which don't come to mind right now.

Most of the software is run off of a server on Ethernet. The things I want to
able to update are inits and other system folder stuff.

Will AtEase 2.0 for workgroups do most of what I want? How about a combo of
File Gaurd and something else? Any ideas?

Please respond as soon as possible - it's crunch time.  Thanks.  Mark.  8^)
!! Mark Dohm, U/Wisconsin-Platteville Information Technology
!! Student Macintosh/Information Technology Specialist
!! ucsmad@uwplatt.edu  AOL: MarkMAD

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 06 Dec 93 21:13:49 EST
From: Pete Tamas <GNOME%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Toolbook software

I have a lead on a consulting project for people who use Toolbook. Anyone
have any idea what it is? I did not find mention of it in one of the
MacWarehouse catalogues that are busily multiplying on the couch.
Could it be a PC package? The person who passed the lead onto me says
it is an interactive multimedia package.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.-Pete Tamas
Gnome@VM.Temple.edu or TempleVM.bitnet

------------------------------

Date: 3 Dec 1993 11:50:49 -0600
From: saul@hnrc.tufts.edu (Saul Tannenbaum)
Subject: Warning: Apple Software Dispatch (extension problem)

	[ found on another newsgroup, but I removed "Trojan Horse"
	  from the Subject-header.  otherwise the article is original.
	  While I do not myself know anything about the problem nor
	  the symptoms (and extension problems are nothing if not
	  'a normal experience' for many of us, there are some aspects
	  of this report which most (potential) users might want to
	  be aware of BEFORE first using this...
							---Werner ]


Warning - Apple Software Dispatch is a Trojan Horse

Apple Software Dispatch is Apple's new way to buy application software.
They send you a CD (mine came unsolicited in the mail). You run an application
on the CD, register your CD by a code that comes with the package, and
then you can call an 800 number to purchase applications on the CD.
You give them a credit card number - they give you some code number that
unlocks/decrypts the application.

While the documentation nowhere says so, THE SOFTWARE DISPATCH APPLICATION
INSTALLS AN EXTENSION IN YOUR SYSTEM. On my system, this extension
clearly conflicted with something, rendering my disks (hard, floppy _and_
CD-ROM) unmountable. Removing the extension fixed the problem. Booting
with Software Dispatch as the only extension also worked, so Software
Dispatch is not inherently buggy - it just suffers from classic Mac
extension conflict problems. However, since this extension is not
mentioned in the documentation, there are people who are in for a rude shock.
And, since the symptoms for this problem are just a dialog saying
"This disk is unreadable on this Macintosh. Would you like to initialize
it?", there are people who are going to waste endless amounts of time,
restoring and rebuilding their disks needlessly. After they do that,
if they still don't notice the Software Dispatch extension, they still
won't have fixed the problem.

I called the Apple Software Dispatch 800 number to report this problem.
After convincing them that I was calling for technical support for
Software Dispatch itself, not an application I purchased through Software
Dispatch, I ended up playing 3 days of phone tag with a support person.
The end result: "We'll report this to a technician. I can't say when they
will get back to you - but it's apt to be a few weeks."

My flames:

	* You don't install software on someone's machine without informing
	  them in documentation and during the installation process.
	  I _assume_ that the Software Dispatch extension is benign.
	  I don't _know_ that it is. Indeed, I had to stumble across
	  its very existence. It's stuff like this that starts ugly
	  rumors and very, very bad PR.
	* If you are in the software distribution and installation business,
	  you do tech support better than Apple Software Dispatch, especially
	  given the point above.
	* You take reports of "this makes my machine unusable" a little
	  more seriously, especially when you're launching a new means
	  of software distribution. Doing otherwise only ends up shooting
	  yourself in the foot.

I can't believe that I'm the only person to whom this has happened. While
I run a fairly complex Mac, I am relatively conservative about system
extensions - with one or two exceptions, the extensions I have aren't
particularly funky, they're from Apple or 3rd party vendors. I expect that
Apple will be suffering from real grief about this, and, regrettably, they
deserve every little bit of it.

	- Saul, who is clearly speaking _only_ for himself

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1993 13:15:20 -0600 (CST)
From: "Michael W. Wheeler" <MWW@tntech.edu>
Subject: X11R5 server(s) for the Macintosh

>Can anyone:
>*  Say if they have heard any rumours of a future version of MacX
>   supporting X11R5 in the not too distant future?

I don't remember hearing anything about MacX going to R5. Maybe
someone else can comment. I have MacX and eXodus and I like eXodus
much more.

>*  Tell me if there are any reasonable (price, speed, etc.)
>   alternatives to MacX that are X11R5 servers?  (I have only
>   heard of Exodus, and don't know whether it is X11R4 or X11R5)

I'm using eXodus II 5.0 on my Quadra 800. It is an R5 server. It is
much improved over version 4.0.5 which was an R4 server. Most of my
major complaints have been addressed in this release and I=A0am happy
with it.

I have found some minor bugs and have contacted White Pine about them.
I expect them to be addressed in the next release as well.

I have been pleased with the Tech Support people and I also have
talked to them in person when they attended DECUS expos. There support
deptartment has internet, AppleLink, and CompuServe access.

I paid about $195 (US) for my copy of 4.0.5 and the upgrade to 5.0 was
free to purchasers of 4.0.5. You can contact WhitePine at:

  White Pine Software
  40 Simon Street, Suite 201
  Nashua, NH 03060-3043
  Fax: 603-886-9051
  Phone: 603-886-9050

You can also contact them for info at info@wpine.com.

A single user license goes for $295.00 (US) but they have a special
offer through December 31st 1993 for $199.00 (US). You will have to
contact them about international shipment costs.

Michael W. Wheeler (Internet: mww@tntech.edu)

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 10:03:15 -0500 (EST)
From: ericb@telecnnct.com (Eric Burger)
Subject: X11R5 server(s) for the Macintosh (R)

Forwarded message from Mike Brudenell:
> *  Tell me if there are any reasonable (price, speed, etc.) alternatives to
>    MacX that are X11R5 servers?  (I have only heard of Exodus, and don't
>    know whether it is X11R4 or X11R5)
Yes, X11R5!  You can get a tape of the sources from MIT (c.US$100),
or you can get CD's with the sources on it (c. US$35).

Of course, you would have to invest in MPW and *LOTS* of time putting
it together and you are, natrually, planning on never needing support
:-)

--
--  Eric William Burger       --  Eric.Burger@telecnnct.com  --

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1993 13:17:41 -0600 (CST)
From: "Michael W. Wheeler" <MWW@tntech.edu>
Subject: xterm emulators for the Mac

>I have been attempting to locate an xwindows emulator for the
>Macintosh which would allow a user full connectivity to a Sun Unix
>workstation.  Does such a thing exist, and if so, where can I find
>it?
=20
I=A0use eXodus II from White Pine Software. It includes support for S=
un
Openwindows. It is an X11R5 server.

You can contact White Pine Software at:

  White Pine Software
  40 Simon Street, Suite 201
  Nashua, NH 03060-3043
  Fax: 603-886-9051
  Phone: 603-886-9050

You can also contact them for info at info@wpine.com.

A single user license goes for $295.00 (US) but they have a special
offer through December 31st 1993 for $199.00 (US). You will have to
contact them about international shipment costs.

There is also a product call MacX that I=A0don't like as well and has
some very bothersome limitations (IMHO). I=A0don't know how will it
supports the Sun platform.

Michael W. Wheeler (Internet: mww@tntech.edu)

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